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non-nintendo nerds can just skip this entry.

so i'm playing oracle of ages, and AFTER beating the part where the annoying fish people steal all my stuff, and AFTER navigating the diseased and complicated ocean in the past and the present to get to the zora village, and AFTER completing the underwater labyrinth where you have to raise and lower the water level to access different rooms and sections of the maze, after doing all that, i'm attempting to get through the Hero's Cave. this dungeon isn't necessary to win the game--it's a side quest that will get me an extra cool ring, so i'm giving it a try. and i get stuck in one of those rooms where you have to turn each square tile on the floor all the same color--when you walk in, the floor is blue, and you have to change it all to pink one tile at a time. and you can't open the door to go on until you do this puzzle.

so i try it five dozen times and can't figure it out. the best i can do is get every single tile in the room except for one. there's always *one* tile left over. i figure, i'll take a break, sleep on it, and so i come back to it today. after trying the room another three dozen times, i still cannot get it. i've consulted the Official Perfect Game Guide, and all it says about the Hero's Cave is "you may want to challenge the Cave of Heroes, which features 14 difficult puzzles." yeah, i noticed. this supposedly perfect game guide does not have any information at all on how to get through the 14 damn difficult puzzles. so i decide to consult the wisdom of others more nerdy than myself, and i look online. i find a FAQ that leads me to this gif that shows me the answer. and the answer is that THERE IS ONE TILE LEFT OVER, AND YOU USE YOUR CANE OF SOMARIA TO COVER THE LAST DAMN TILE. holy fuck, how goddamned annoying. i never ever would have thought of that, and i could've finished this puzzle on like my third try yesterday if i had thought of it. son of a bitch.

i liked oracle of seasons a lot better. ages is kicking my ass. and making me use a lot of bad language. sigh.

Date: 2003-05-07 02:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] painkiller.livejournal.com
This story reminds me of when I played Lufia II for Sega Genesis. All of the towers you had to go through [except these were required to beat the game - no side quests here] had puzzles of one sort of another you had to solve in order to get to the top and face the mini-boss or whatever. There was this one set of rooms that you had to pick up floor tiles and move them to different spots in the room in order to put same colored tiles in a row. Plus you only had a certain number of moves in a room and if you didn't solve the puzzle in, say 4 moves, the puzzle would reset itself.

Anyway, the last puzzle room in that tower made you move 3 tiles in order to change 3485623489562378 floor tiles to the same color or something. It literally took me a week to solve it. I didn't have to consult any guides or anything, and I remember I solved it by accident. I don't remember what I did to make it work.

That game was unbelievable disappointing; the ending was so stupid considering how much effort you have to put into it to beat it.

Which reminds me of another one - in Might & Magic IX, there's this one side quest that is nothing but puzzle traps. It's totally not necessary to solve to beat the game, and the reward for solving it was your Ranger got some extra skillz [I didn't even have a Ranger in my party] but I wanted to try it anyway. It was absolutely impossible - 12 different rooms where you had to jump on certain squares in a specific order @ a specific time, and one mistake meant you had to start the ENTIRE thing all over again. I never did solve that one because it was so pointless.

Date: 2003-05-07 02:40 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] sleepyworm.livejournal.com
oh, rox, I'm so sorry. that suxxorz beyond belief. That was never a solution to any of the color-change puzzles I went through. :( But now you can go on!
Yeah, I remember when I beat the Hero Cave. I had to plug it into the wall and leave it on for an entire day. In the summer. Playing it all day. Not too fun...But I beat it. Just stick with it. I'll give you some advice that Jorn has bestowed upon me many a time in my youth when I wasn't getting anywhere...

"You know that thing you haven't done, yet? Do that."

Good luck! :-D
the funny thing is that the other hero cave (when you play ages and then link to seasons) isn't all that hard, assuming you have the roc's cape. For some reason, rox is encountering evil puzzles in the seasons-to-ages hero cave. Very odd.

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